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		<title>By: Raynaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raynaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg.. good work, bro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg.. good work, bro</p>
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		<title>By: Marco420</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAd : what i meant by “Serie A really isn’t that far behind La Liga and the Premiership in terms of talent…”

is that individual talented players, are now choosing the EPL or Liga over the Serie A. Ex : Aguero, Tevez and Nani. Serie a isn&#039;t attracting superstars like it did back in the 90&#039;s. But i NEVER said i consider the EPL to be a better leageu. As i&#039;ve said before, i hate EPL&#039;S Ping POng Style. I prefer by far Serie A, and you just need to check the recent CHampions League Champions (or World Cup Champs) to figure out Italian football is doing fine right now. Better than The EPL teams on football  terms but not on monetary terms. 


I agree that Serie A teams are too impatient with youngsters (read Aquilani, Paonessa and Russotto, etc)
But you can&#039;t deny our amazing U21 squad. It&#039;s the between 18 year old and 23 year old players that suffer from their teams non-confidence in their ability. Even if not enough youngens get a chance to learn in Serie A, we can&#039;t say that Italy can&#039;t nurture young talent.

Romanisti  : Thanks for the love and that Vialli thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAd : what i meant by “Serie A really isn’t that far behind La Liga and the Premiership in terms of talent…”</p>
<p>is that individual talented players, are now choosing the EPL or Liga over the Serie A. Ex : Aguero, Tevez and Nani. Serie a isn&#8217;t attracting superstars like it did back in the 90&#8217;s. But i NEVER said i consider the EPL to be a better leageu. As i&#8217;ve said before, i hate EPL&#8217;S Ping POng Style. I prefer by far Serie A, and you just need to check the recent CHampions League Champions (or World Cup Champs) to figure out Italian football is doing fine right now. Better than The EPL teams on football  terms but not on monetary terms. </p>
<p>I agree that Serie A teams are too impatient with youngsters (read Aquilani, Paonessa and Russotto, etc)<br />
But you can&#8217;t deny our amazing U21 squad. It&#8217;s the between 18 year old and 23 year old players that suffer from their teams non-confidence in their ability. Even if not enough youngens get a chance to learn in Serie A, we can&#8217;t say that Italy can&#8217;t nurture young talent.</p>
<p>Romanisti  : Thanks for the love and that Vialli thing</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriella (ASR)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriella (ASR)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to listen to the podcast just scroll down tot he archives and choose &quot;Frank Lampard and Gianluca Vialli&quot; 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_video/podcasts/thegame/article3448070.ece
... there is a blog on it too:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3386185.ece
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Vialli, of course, moved abroad. Lampard may or may not do so. What they agree upon is that, overall, it can be tremendously beneficial.

“I always advise Italian players to move to the Premier League and I would advise anyone to try playing abroad,” Vialli says. “It’s a new challenge, it opens your mind and you can definitely learn a lot. In my case, English football certainly brought out the best of me. I think going abroad, to Italy or Spain, might do the same for an English player.”

“In the modern game it would definitely help us,” Lampard says. “Imagine if our national team had, say, four or five of the team who had travelled, who had learned a bit more of the Italian game or the Spanish game or whatever. We’re all in our comfort zone here in the Premier League. Especially now that the money is the same or better as it is abroad, many think, ‘Why take a chance?’

“In England we’re very one-track. I was the same before I came to Chelsea. I would never leave Essex. I mean, going to Harrods was a big day out for me. And many of us had that mentality. But if you went abroad and you dealt with a different language, different food, different culture . . . you’d be a better person for sure to deal with all that. And let’s face it, we English haven’t been very good at it.”

Vialli took the step abroad; Lampard may or may not, but the mere fact that he sees the benefits shows that something’s changed in English football. And, most likely, for the better. 
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So does going abroad give an advantage for the Italian footballer? and the national team? 

Serie A is a technical and tactical league and I can see players going to Spain and gaining valuable experience because La Liga is on same level ... but EPL??? Bianchi complained about food (so did Makalele) and generally the &quot;unprofessional&quot; behaviour of players (how much they dont take care of themselves physically not just the partying)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to listen to the podcast just scroll down tot he archives and choose &#8220;Frank Lampard and Gianluca Vialli&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_video/podcasts/thegame/article3448070.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_video/podcasts/thegame/article3448070.ece</a><br />
&#8230; there is a blog on it too:<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3386185.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3386185.ece</a><br />
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Vialli, of course, moved abroad. Lampard may or may not do so. What they agree upon is that, overall, it can be tremendously beneficial.</p>
<p>“I always advise Italian players to move to the Premier League and I would advise anyone to try playing abroad,” Vialli says. “It’s a new challenge, it opens your mind and you can definitely learn a lot. In my case, English football certainly brought out the best of me. I think going abroad, to Italy or Spain, might do the same for an English player.”</p>
<p>“In the modern game it would definitely help us,” Lampard says. “Imagine if our national team had, say, four or five of the team who had travelled, who had learned a bit more of the Italian game or the Spanish game or whatever. We’re all in our comfort zone here in the Premier League. Especially now that the money is the same or better as it is abroad, many think, ‘Why take a chance?’</p>
<p>“In England we’re very one-track. I was the same before I came to Chelsea. I would never leave Essex. I mean, going to Harrods was a big day out for me. And many of us had that mentality. But if you went abroad and you dealt with a different language, different food, different culture . . . you’d be a better person for sure to deal with all that. And let’s face it, we English haven’t been very good at it.”</p>
<p>Vialli took the step abroad; Lampard may or may not, but the mere fact that he sees the benefits shows that something’s changed in English football. And, most likely, for the better.<br />
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<p>So does going abroad give an advantage for the Italian footballer? and the national team? </p>
<p>Serie A is a technical and tactical league and I can see players going to Spain and gaining valuable experience because La Liga is on same level &#8230; but EPL??? Bianchi complained about food (so did Makalele) and generally the &#8220;unprofessional&#8221; behaviour of players (how much they dont take care of themselves physically not just the partying)</p>
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		<title>By: MAD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Serie A really isn’t that far behind La Liga and the Premiership in terms of talent...&quot;

I can&#039;t tell you how much this comment bothers me. I watch EPL because I live in the US and I don&#039;t get a whole lot of Serie A. But what do I get, even the crap Serie A teams, is better than the never ending stream of long passes to no-one, miss hit three meter passes and general thuggery that is the EPL.

As to the rest of the article. Perhaps an avenue that you are not taking into the effect is that mid-tier Italian players who have outgrown the intitial stages of their wages, are not considered enough of a &quot;name&quot; player for the Champions League level clubs and are forced to go else where for pay and play.

Here&#039;s an example. Player A was with Atalanta for three years and is looking for a pay hike. Inter, Milan, Juve, Roma, and Fiorentina need to win now, to cover their incredible payroll (which means Scudetti, Copa and CL wins) and can&#039;t take time to grow a young player. Every one else is at bargain basement salaries.

The top teams are too impatient for development and the rest is too concerned with payroll. Teams in England and Spain are willing to pay more AND OFFER MORE PLAYING TIME for a middle tier talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Serie A really isn’t that far behind La Liga and the Premiership in terms of talent&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how much this comment bothers me. I watch EPL because I live in the US and I don&#8217;t get a whole lot of Serie A. But what do I get, even the crap Serie A teams, is better than the never ending stream of long passes to no-one, miss hit three meter passes and general thuggery that is the EPL.</p>
<p>As to the rest of the article. Perhaps an avenue that you are not taking into the effect is that mid-tier Italian players who have outgrown the intitial stages of their wages, are not considered enough of a &#8220;name&#8221; player for the Champions League level clubs and are forced to go else where for pay and play.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example. Player A was with Atalanta for three years and is looking for a pay hike. Inter, Milan, Juve, Roma, and Fiorentina need to win now, to cover their incredible payroll (which means Scudetti, Copa and CL wins) and can&#8217;t take time to grow a young player. Every one else is at bargain basement salaries.</p>
<p>The top teams are too impatient for development and the rest is too concerned with payroll. Teams in England and Spain are willing to pay more AND OFFER MORE PLAYING TIME for a middle tier talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Traian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff Marco...Keep up the good work here and at Roma!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff Marco&#8230;Keep up the good work here and at Roma!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco this is great!!!

I would agree about Tomassi!!

But I would change the coach!

To Capello.... I cant believe i just said that. *puke*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco this is great!!!</p>
<p>I would agree about Tomassi!!</p>
<p>But I would change the coach!</p>
<p>To Capello&#8230;. I cant believe i just said that. *puke*</p>
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